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>> about giving the money to the states, keeping the states solvent. you could do a number of things right now like infrastructure bank. >> bill: smarter than i am. >> certainly not true. >> bill: unemployment went up and the federal debt rose to record levels. >> unemployment has stayed pretty steady. >> no it wasn't. roughly the same. statistically. >> bill: since the stimulus 1.5 unemployment. big number. >> statistically the same. without having spent this money, the money that brings money back into the economy we would be in a lot worst shape than we are now. >> how do you know that. >> because every economist. >> bill: i knew you were going to do that not one economist working for the fox business not work that ayees with what you said not one. >> that may be. taking one slice of america the fox business not work. mark sandy, bender.
even douglas eakin who is. >> bill: paul krugman. >> egan. >> how -- >> douglas -- chief economist says that. okay? >> bill: these numbers that are pretty shocking, wouldn't you say? >> yes. stunning. >> bill: what is it? $410 million an hour? >> an hour, yeah. >> bill: so everybody but colmes, everybody and maybe the wall street protesters. maybe that crowd. but everybody else, who is knot i'd logical got to say put a lid on it or we are going to be grease. can't pay our bills. didn't pay it back or no matter what spin or excuse you use you have to go back to 2007 when it was 161 billion. back then they were worried about 161 billion being deficit spending. that's how crazy this is put the whole budget reverting back to 2007.
whatever they were getting then, they get now. so that cuts all of that out. why don't these pinheads in the republic party just say that? >> well, you are exactly right. >> bill: why don't they say it. >> i have no explanation for it, bill. as aconservative i have been screaming at the republic party for years for big government big spending policies. we have had over the last couple of years, right in the liberals have controlled the white house, both houses of congress until last january. we have run their experiment. they have spent us into a coma. all of those numbers that you have laid out, right? we now have the evidence that none of it worked. the evidence that we have is that if massive infusions of government spending, taxpayer money into an economy were to create in booming economic situation, greece would be booming. western europe would be booming. the united states would be booming. and instead what we have. >> bill: never going to convince colmes of this. we are not prospering. >> nonexistent growth. >> we have to get common ground the three of us. the united states is not
prospering economically. you would agree, i would agree. we are not. either staying or going down and staying the same and the same ain't good. at the same time running up record deficits more that be any other president in the history of this country has. go so, got to find a different way. >> i think we have to do more. >> bill: as crazy as you are, you say more government spending? >> investments has paid off. g.m. is back all the stuff they have done has not improved it. >> that's your opinion. >> of course it's my opinion. >> bill: boo doo what you say. listen to me. if you do what you say and it doesn't work we're greece. "the washington post" abc news poll asked this question who do you think the presidential election next year? 37% is said president obama but 55% believe the republic candidate will win unless it's alan colmes. [ laughter ] >> bill: that includes 33% of democrats so things are bleak.
doms, first of all, do you agree with me about mitt romney election held tomorrow. >> yes if it were held tomorrow without process and debate head-to-head confrontation if we were to fast forward without an actual campaign you may be wrong. >> bill: you see president obama rising up in the campaign like a phoenix. >> phoenix it might not be food enough. >> he does well against an unnamed -- he has to the got to rise or something. is it going to be rhetoric. >> fuse of the republic party. voters one nightstands like daters having one nightstands and saying how did i make that choice? >> one minute it's perry. they go back to romney whenever they are done with ha particular fling for the moments. >> bill: you don't think the republicans can mount. >> money is excited about
romney. perry fallen by the wayside. bachmann by the wayside. christie is not running. the one person the republicans thought might be able to go against obama and really wheat him decided he was not going to rub. >> bill: that was christie in your opinion that. >> was christie. >> i think that 55% as a conservative i hope that actually translates next november in the election. i think what that reflects is two things. number one, widespread discontent and disappointment with the president that his economic policies have not worked and actually took a bad situation and made it worse. for most persons. and number two i also think this reflect the state of the economy. now, a year is an eternity in politics. a day can be an eternity, right? anything can happen. >> bill: i don't buy that. i disagree with you on that. with all of the primaries being moved up now to january, we're really on the train here. it's roaring down the track. >> the reason that christie didn't run there were two reasons. number one didn't want to lie to his constituents because he said what do i have to do,
commit suicide? i'm not running. he didn't want to do that. his people told him i have inside information. can't set up organization by state by state in time. >> it takes a long time to do. so what i'm saying is that the situation internally in the united states, domestically here at home whether it's the economy or something else, there could be up for seen extench event internationally. >> the knee doesn't turn around that fast. >> that's my point. given the oppressive suffocating policies of this administration where the president is not changing course in any direction in any way the assumption is the economy is going to be bad going into next year. >> bill: colmes, doesn't it make you feel unease when the president in an interview goes things didn't work out. solyndra. $528 million. hey, you know. kind of like you spill soup on your tie oh well, you know, the tie. >> if we want to compete with other countries that are
heavily subsidizing the industries of the future, we have got to make sure that our guys here in the united states of america at least have a shot. now, there are going to be some failures. and solyndra is an example. >> give warnings not to back that company up. >> hindsight is always 20/20. it went through the regular review process and people felt like this was a big bet. >> bill: two big guns on the record saying we told them not to do it. >> i lost my head by speaking. >> bill: you will did. whenever you speak you lose your head. just as an person not a craze the left wing loan. the president geese on with stephanopoulos. >> i love to hear two big guns otherwise disagree with the fact is we have an administration where there are many different views going back and forth. >> doesn't make you nervous when that happens. >> one bad investment out of many. solar power, nuclear power,
wind power. the guarantee loan program that the republicans have voted for brought in dividends on everything else. one country that didn't do well and go crazy with it and unfair -- >> -- if you want to drive tomorrow you have got to put gas in your car. if you want to heat your house you have to deal with gas and oil. >> picking uninvest. where he had hundreds of investments. >> colmes won't exceed it makes him nervous. i'm nervels have you. up to this point you have cede dr. crowley. if i'm honest, there has been no scandals. they haven't done anything. >> as far as we know, yeah. and also they have been on the level with the american people about their objectives. >> bill: they say flat out. >> which is transforming big sectors of the american economy, including the energy sector which is why the president comes out to stephanopoulos and says what's half a billion dollars really because the bigger project is
bankrupting coal which is what he told you he want to do in the 2008 campaign. >> where are the billions of dollars from the iraqi military you know what -- >> -- [ laughter ] >> we could be discussing marilyn monroe and you would get marilyn out of iraq somehow. >> bill: best of the culture warriors. did president obama steal one of miller's jokes? right back with that. congratulations. congratulations. congralations. today, the city of charlotte can use verizon technology to inspire binesses to conserve energy and monitor costs. making communities greener... congratulations. ... and buildings as valuable to the bottom line... whoa ! ... as the people inside them.
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margaret hoover and gresham carlson. so, what's going on with this mosque deal? >> so right now park 51, the group that wants to build this mosque community center slash whatever it is is in a court battle with con ed, the utility company. why? because they need to buy two buildings in order to put up this mosque. the one they already purchased the second one they have been leasing from con ed. now they owe $1.7 million in bank rent and they are in a court dispute about that figure. >> bill: what's to dispute they owe the rent. >> well, know. >> bill: they have to pay it? >> retroactive they were supposed to go back and pay the rent. there is calculation argument. but now here is the update. now this guy in charge of wanting to build the mosque has said well maybe we won't put a mosque there now. we will do condos, why? because he needs. >> bill: condos. >> he needs to. >> condos for al qaeda? >> come on. >> bill: that was jest. everybody knows it was. >> i want everyone to know that was a jest. >> why does he want to build
condos? >> bill: yes. >> he needs to raise more money to be able to pay this off. nobody is going to give him money if they think it's a mosque. >> bill: bottom line is this is not going to get done as predicted. what's the matter with you? these people down there have a right to do what they want to do. we have always said that we believe it's wrong and incentive to the family. i can't poke a little fun at them? >> poke a little fun. but going straight to al qaeda? come on that may be reinforcing many is of the negative stereotypes. >> bill: you are as bad as -- >> off this set right now. >> bill: you knew exactly what i was doing. i was being my own immature self- >> i will poke a little fun back. >> bill: she knew what i was doing and didn't even stop her dissertation. she ran right through it here is you oh! come on, this is ridiculous. people are so tired of this p.c.b.s. >> well, you are right.
>> bill: thank you. >> as you know in lower manhattan the majority of americans told about this think they absolutely have the right to build whatever they want to do but out of sensitivities to the family. >> bill: i just demonstrated i object appropriate remark to bring home the inappropriateness. >> as long as we are all on the same page about that. >> okay. there is a study, hoover, that says that mean guys, and i don't know too many mean guys. make more money in the private marketplace than nice guys. tell me about that. >> well, that is exactly right. apparently if you are at least one standard deviation more mean than the average mean person at work, you are going to make 18% more than average men. the thing that's interesting about the study is that it doesn't apply equally for women. if you are a mean woman in the workplace, you only get 5% higher pay than the average.
>> bill: both gender if they are meaner to their cohorts get paid more money. what do you think about that. >> i'm not shocked at all. >> bill: what is this till of the hundred? >> no it's going to be. i have worked with a lot of divas and jerks throughout my career and i have watched them continually get rewarded. i had a was said i could be more like them so i could rise through the ranks quicker. >> you? >> you are not mean girls are you? >> you north mean either, bill but you are doing pretty well. >> you just destroyed all your credibility. you want to rethink that? hoover said on national tv i'm not mean. come on, everybody. oh god like this. >> you notice i didn't say it and i make a lot of money. so, i don't know. i might be in the kill zone. >> may need to be meaner. >> look, it's human nature, the more you ask for something the more you get it. it means that you ask for it. >> and many of us are misunderstood, ladies and gentlemen.
>> bill: personal story segment tonight, as you may know, former vice president dick cheney has written a new book with his daughter liz entitled in my time, a personal and political memoir. we have invited ms. cheney on the program but he has declined thus far but his daughter is a different story. >> so, ms. cheney is the co-author of the book but your other co-author, i don't see, is he not here. >> am i chop liver? >> bill: you know we absolutely love you as a guest. i have never talked to your father, the former vice president. i don't believe he likes me very much. and, you know, i'm a little
perplexed. >> could be saving the best for last. but i think the fact that i was able to find time in my schedule to appear should be something you should be grateful for. >> bill: i am grateful. two big deficits from the bush cheney administration. the first deficit is the economy that went down the drain at the end. president bush and vice president cheney were taken by surprise because of all the subprime mortgages. my question to your father, why didn't you know about that? >> you know, i think actually, they spent a lot of time and they made efforts during the bush administration to reform fannie mae and freddie mac and those efforts were blocked by mostly the democrats in congress. but we did come to a point that was clearly an economic crisis. >> bill: but i still don't understand and i asked president bush this himself when i talked to him about this book why there wasn't a louder cry from the bush white house, including your father, about the danger of selling these subprime mortgages all over the place. >> i think clearly the crisis was deeper than anybody anticipated or could have imagined.
>> they just didn't know how bad it was? that's the fair answer? >>. no and they took steps. the steps were really important so the economy didn't fall off of a cliff. >> okay. the second one is the iraq war. you know i'm a supporter or i was a supporter. >> i actually didn't know that. >> it's true. i'm on the record of supporting the enhanced interrogations. the patriot act, guantanamo bay, i mean, it was consistently across the line. but, there is a historical record. and the historical record is that americans were not aware of the big threat that al qaeda was posing. >> the threat was on al qaeda that before 9/11 we treated it like a e problem. >> bill: yes. and clinton did and bush did. >> that's the key difference that the president and the vice president, bush and cheney understood after 9/11 this is war. and we're at war and we have got to do whatever it takes to keep the nation safe. >> bill: all right. three days before the iraq war was launched here is what vice president cheney said on meet the press. >> i think things are gotten so bad inside iraq from the standpoint of the iraqi people
my believe is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators. >> bill: obviously didn't happen. >> it actually did happen. we were greeted as liberators and then we saw a massive bloody dangerous insurgency begin. and it wasn't, frankly, until we were able in 2006 with the surge to adopt a counter insurgency strategy that we were able to frankly turn things around. >> bill: here is why you are wrong. we weren't greeted as liberators. we were greeted in a way that was tentative. >> that's not true. you saw the statue came down. do you know how many people were out there when the statue of saddam hussein came down? do you know how many. >> do you know how many, bill? >> bill: yes, i do. couple of hundreds. not thousands. it's a city of millions. right after the statue came down the armies were looted and the terrorists came in and took all of saddam hussein's arms because our government wasn't expecting it. >> i know how much you care about no spin. >> bill: right. >> i think it's really important here. >> there is a dam was
incredibly oppressive dictator. >> bill: no doubt. >> the iraqi people were glad to see him go. saddam hussein had in place there were elements of his regime that stayed in place. elements from al qaeda. elements from iran who were there. who were ready who launched a very bloody insurgency. >> not anticipated by us. that insurgency. >> it was anticipated by everyone. >> when we removed saddam hussein we made sure that there wasn't going to be somebody in place who we knew had ties to terror and make weapons of mass destruction who we knew had used him before who qui knew were supporting terrorists. we also by the way as soon as saddam hussein was gone got a call from muammar qaddafi who didn't want to be next who gave up his nuclear weapons. i think that the notion that we now have in the heart of the middle east, a democracy that is not supporting terrorists. it's not perfect. but it is a huge accomplishment of the bush administration that we liberated all those people and the people in afghanistan. i think it's just flat wrong for you to call it. >> bill: i disagree in the sense that it could have been
done in a different way. i would have -- the same result. >> which way would you have gone and talked to saddam hussein and said you ought to pack it in? >> bill: i would have gone bush the elder way. the president's father. i would have strangled them with a blockade. i would have no-fly zone as has been done. >> the reports that were done by the iraq survey group, for example. it was clear when we came into office in 2000 that saddam was a threat. that he had between the time of the first bush administration and this bush administration completely ignored 16 u.n. security council resolutions that the saddam regime was crumbling. not accurate to say he was in a box and we could have scrambled him. iran was going to share technology. >> bill: i don't expect you and your father to agree with me but the blood and treasure of the united states spent in iraq has now come back to our
country in a very negative way. >> we need more time and i feel confident that i could convince you of the rightness of my position. >> bill: thank you for coming, in ms. cheney, we appreciate it? >> thank you. good to be here. >> bill: we are still hoping the vice president will reconsider. it would be fun to have him on the program. at least it would be fun for us. >> bill: coming up, dennis miller may have been the victim of theft from of all people president obama. people president obama. we'll explain right aerer ok, people. show me the best way to design people president obama. we'll explain right aerer a vacation on a budget with expedia. make it work. booking a flight by itself is an uh-oh. see if we can "stitch" together a better deal. that's a hint, antoine. ooh! see what anandra did? booking your flight and hotel at the same time gets you prices hotels and airlines won't let expedia show separately. book it. major wow factor! where you book matters. expedia.
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i'm bill o'reilly in the miller time segment tonight. very interesting situation. last week i asked miller about the debates, whether there are too many of them. >> listen, billy, it should be like survivor. every week from here on in, those guys should vote one of those guys off. we have got to widdle this down. >> bill: all right. then last night jay leno asked president obama about the debates. >> now, have have you been watching the g.o.p. debates. >> i'm going to wait until everybody is voted off the island. [ laughter ] once they narrow it down to one or two, i will start paying attention. >> bill: he didn't say widdle but he was close. the sage of southern california dennis miller joins us. >> i don't need any more bounced checks in my life. i don't think of that as stealing. that's an easy joke. biden could have figured that one out. i so see solyndra as stealing. i see the 16 buck muffin as stealing but, no, that's an easy sitter at the net. >> bill: i could be absolutely
wrong. but i'm going to submit they saw the segment, they being the white house communications people and subliminally it stuck. and, of course, the president has, you know, some -- here is what happens with jay leno as you know, miller, been on the show many times. jay will come in and he will rap with you. comes in with jeans and little shirt. he says look, this is what we want to do. >> jay likes having presidents on the show. quite frankly i'm sure they feed him a few lines. i would, do too. you want to get the president on. i wish i could be as calm as barack obama on the television. that guy is smooth, man. >> i said that at the top of the program. very smooth and you are pretty calm though. when i go on leno and letterman i'm calm. >> i sometimes get a little antsy. he is he so smooth that i'm hoping jay makes him his ed mcmahon. [ laughter ] >> bill: okay, now, out in l.a., and you were not invited to this i understand. the president met with some hollywood moguls secret. very secret meeting. of course, it got out 10 seconds because there is nothing secret in hollywood
after it occurred. now, mccartney wasn't there and these pinheads weren't there. these were like serious people behind -- oprah wasn't there it was behind the scenes people and they were kind of formulating communication strategy, which makes sense, right? i don't see anything wrong with thatf you got allies and powerful positions you go to them for advice, right? >> guys don't get into hollywood because they are self-contained. in lieu of being talented enough to have an oscar on your shelf, the next best thing is a picture of you with close proximity to the ultimate power which is the president of the united states at any given moment. i guarantee i have been in enough of those offices for enough of those meetings when you look at the picture that supposedly tells you how close they are with the guy, they always look like they are honeymooning in niagara falls. the donor and donee always has that look on his face like lloyd bucher when the north koreans made him read a question against his will or something. i guess getting the photo taken would mean something to some of those guys.
some of those guys make zell leg look like a monk that's the way hollywood has always been. >> bill: wasn't a fundraiser. went in for advice and how are we going to package this and all of that. it is going to be a close race and that's why we are spending so much time on it? >> let me tell you about something about barack obama. called kill the terrorist yats see. if he can get bashar assad. if he keeps killing these guys and guess the economy better. you know me i'm not a fan. i have to start voting against them. if he he gets out of iraq and afghanistan too early, that seems foolish to me. you have got to admit when the guy has somebody in the crosshairs, is he killing a machine. >> bill: is he going to go out fighting, no doubt about it. 4 will% of measures according to a new poll from fox i cited this earlier in the broadcast say if he is reelected they will leave the country they will be that distraught it seems to me that is very, very tough for him to come back but i could be wrong. i thought hillary was going to beat him in the primaries and
i want everybody to understand that. >> a 2% of the people vote for barack obama. the 48 should know the country is leaving them. not visa versa. >> i know. this is like really panicked. not -- well, we just don't like him. this is like oh, if he is reelected it's going to be all over. very high number. rick perry on the factor last night. the governor made a come back. >> i thought it was the best he looked. that heartless thing was really, that's like newt gingrich with paul ryan. that's the thing about a gun owner, when they shoot themselves in the foot, they are really accurate. i didn't think he could come back from that heartless thing but i thought he did really well on your show. it's the first time i looked at him and thought what is this guy all about? because up to here the first six weeks have been rocky. i thought he did pretty well last night. >> bill: i thought he was okay. i think he has still got some problems on the illegal immigration front. and the tea party people who were his main supporters have gone to herman cain and herman, you know, is formidable tea party guy.
i don't know if the governor, governor perry is going to be able to get those people back, the tea party people the hard right people, who really want a conservative elected president. so that's -- see, it's perry against cain, rather than perry against romney. he has got to get the people away from cain. i'm not sure he can do that. >> no. i wouldn't say at this point. i would say. this i think he stabilized last night. i think he had gimbel as they used to say in the nasa program when something was spinning out of control he had gimbel lock and he lived to fight another day after last night. >> bill: next up, unforgettable news quiz, it's the military edition with the quiz kids themselves steve and martha. right back with it
american news quiz. all right. ready? >> you can handle it. >> really. bring it on. >> bill: legendary world war ii commander general george patton was portrayed by george c. scott. >> americans play to win all the time. i wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed. that's why americans have never lost and will never lose a war. >> right on. >> what was patton's nickname, a? the answer is c. that was easy. and you both got it wrong. >> that's what we called him at my house. >> in kansas, right? >> the old blood and guts. >> you and dorothy and toto.
toto beat does -- >> -- only person he beat. >> benedict arnold, you know him. defected to the british during the revolutionary war making his name forever synonymous with being a traitor. which american fort did arnold attempt to hand over to the british in exchange for a money bribe? >> roll the tape. >> in the pre-dawn darkness of a misty september morning in 1780, the premier combat officer of the continental army benedict arnold said farewell to a young british officer and headed back home along the banks of the hudson river. major general arnold, commander of the american fortress at west point had just handed over information vital to the enemy's planned attack of the fort. >> bill: that's right. yeah, west point. doocy stores. >> i almost said that but then
i went with -- >> bill: when i was a teacher i used to get excuses like that all the time. >> can i get half point. >> i really knew that. >> that's why you are notify not a teacher anymore. >> bill: that's right. i wouldn't take that from the urchins for a second. the movie top gun featuring tom cruise this one martha will know. young navy pilot. >> i feel the need, the need for speed ow! >> what aircraft is cruise fly in top gun? >> a is correct. >> tom cruise, tom cat. >> bill: mccallum got it right and is embarrassed. >> bill: gettysburg one of the bloodiest battle of the entire civil war.
♪ abraham lincoln's gettysburg address battle site to commemorate what event? the battle's one year anniversary. the battle's one month anniversary. c, the end of the civil war, d, a cemetery dedication. lincoln's gettysburg address perhaps the most famous speech in u.s. history and the answer is d. that is correct. a cemetery dedication. i actually was lucky enough to get to c, lincoln's handwritten copy of the gettysburg address which is in the lincoln bedroom of the white house. you know who took me up there to show it to me? >> president obama. >> bill: that's correct. i almost cried. that's how emotional that thing is. it's an amazing piece of history. i'm sorry i bored you all to tears. >> are you all right? >> you were tearing up a little. >> i was wrong. >> can i get half of b back for answering that question. >> bill: the movie blackhawk
hawk down covered the horrific events in mogadishu somalia. >> stay with it. >> is he going down. he is hit. he is hit. president clinton's first secretary of defense les aspen. who was predecessor. dick cheney and very few people know that. >> that's right. so that's a very interesting part of history. >> it doesn't matter, does it? >> it's just fun being here. >> bill: it is a blast. can i see it in your face. have to do this again this week? >> bill: all right, doocy, you win. >> thank you. >> bill: you heard the applause in the studio. >> come on.
>> bill: question number one, the movie a few good men portrays a dramatic military trial. >> did you order the code red? >> you don't have to answer that question? >> i will answer the question. you want answers? >> i think i'm entitled. >> you want answers? >> i want the truth. >> you can't handle the truth! >> bill: whoa, in that film, cruise plays a lawyer in the navy's jag corps. what does jag stand for? cards up please. and the answer is correct. judge advocate general. now, doocy lost his first. bend down and get that up, doocy. >> hey. [ laughter ] >> bill: obviously didn't have to be coordinated to be on "fox & friends." >> motor skills the first thing to go. >> bill: here is question
number two, the japanese signed and surrender an agreement officially ending world war 2 the signing ceremony was held in tokyo bay on the deck of what u.s. ship, a, uss massachusetts. b, uss missouri. c >> bill: cards up, please. and the answer is roll the tape. >> the battle ship missouri takes her place in tokyo bay for the official surrender of japan. the end of the greatest war. >> bill: all right, ms. martha didn't know it. doocy. >> didn't know it. >> bill: did know it but dropped another card in the middle of that tape. >> i don't need this one. >> bill: murphy was the most decorated american soldier during world war ii. after the war, murphy became a celebrity starring movie about himself. what was the name of that film? a, days of glory? b, to hell and back.
cross of iron. what was the name of the movie that murphy -- actually a book as well. starred in? cards up, please. and the answer is roll the tape. >> to hell and back. the true story of murphy, the most decorated soldier in the history of the united states. >> i remember sitting in that west bury movie theater watching to hell and back. murphy, if you don't know about him, pick up pinheads and patriots, you should know about him. the guy was amazing. question number four, which hall of fame baseball player won the most valuable baseball award first year from the majors after returning from serving in world war ii? >> cards up, please. and the answer is roll the tape. >> fast throw pitches. swings, high drive going deep, deep, it is a home run!
>> bill: all right. baseball, doocy wins. >> there is another question? okay. >> maccallum, you have no idea where you are tonight. all right? all right. baseball. >> wake me up when it's over. [ laughter ] >> bill: it's over but we will do question number five anyway. hoping that you got them all right. here is the last question. during world war ii. american cartoonists were enlisted to help by making propaganda glims. which was shown in the cartoons about having a nightmare about working for the nazis? cards up, please. we will roll the tape again. >> make shower the clothes get washed. [. >> bill: doocy wins. maccallum is embarrassed and i will get out of here.
>> bill: ahead, richard dawkins and i duke it out over science and religion. later, john stossel on a mission to find more jobs. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] some people just know how to build things well. give you and your loved ones an expertly engineered mercedes-benz... ho ho ho! ...at the winter event going on now. but hurry -- the offer ends soon.
>> personal story segment tonight, you may remember we had atheist richard dawkins on the factor. object a crusade to convince believers they're idiots. now he has a new book aimed at children called the magic of reality. i talked to him earlier this week. >> now, you wrote this book and the book, you know, is marketed somewhat toward children adolescents, correct? >> it is -- yes. >> bill: you want them to not only believe in science, which i think is a good thing, but reject god and religion. >> no, this is a book about science. it doesn't talk about god. >> it mocks god.
i looked at it. which you have looked at. >> i went through that book and you basically are saying that everything can be explained by science. correct? >> well, everything about the natural world can be explained by science. where does it mock god. >> it basically says that these things are myths. they are not really triewnchts every chapter has myths at the beginning of the chapter. some of them are ancient egyptian myth. >> bill: don't play semantics games to me you are saying you are an idiot if you believe in god. >> myths all over the world judeo-christian myth thrown in occasionally. >> bill: it isn't a myth. it's reality. this country is based on it. >> that's not true. >> bill: yes it is. throughout history some of the worst regimes ever have been atheistic. communist. >> nothing to do with atheism. >> bill: no? see, my hypothesis is religion
is a constraint on society. goodwill toward men teach creating everybody as jesus taught, the same as you. how you would like to be treated. the 10 commandments. constraints against bad behavior. >> of which the 10 commandments duvall? >> thou shall not make a graven image and violate the sabbath. >> bill: thou shall not kill. >> that is a widespread belief all over the world. >> not by joseph stalin they all had one thing in common. they didn't believe in god. >> in any ways nothing to do with whether you believe in god or not. >> you don't sees a constraint. you don't see religion as constraint on human behavior. >> not really. no i don't want to get into a shouting match about who is more evil than who. >> bill: are we shouting? >> what i do think there is a logical connection between believing in god and doing sometimes doing evil things. >> bill: certainly. sigh that in the holy war. >> there is no connection
between atheist and doing evil things. >> last time we were here, you were here, you are honest to admit you don't know the origin whether it was media or something like that. you said to me we are working on it. i said to you when you get it let me know. that's how we left it last time. >> that was only about two years ago. >> bill: still you don't know. >> are you talking about the origin of life? >> bill: i'm talking about origin of existence. human existence and animal existence. >> how could it help to postulate divine intelligence to explain something complicated like that. >> bill: if you believe in the teachings of jesus or buddha or someone like that who wants people to be peaceful, and to love each other, that is a good thing. >> what's that got to do with the origin of the moon? >> bill: because i don't believe in meteor crashed into the earth and made everything happen. >> bill: just a footnote to that interview last time dawkins was on the factor he told the press afterwards that he was yelled at by me.
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>> any jobs here in where are the jobs? >> how does a politician create jobs? they are sitting in an office. >> does government create jobs? >> sure. who do you think crabbies the streets, collects taxes, runs the schools, cleans the snow? government is great. >> an obama supporter, i can tell you. but the point, she was pretty good. >> she made her point. and the government does create a certain level of jobs. can't run an entire economy and that is the problem. it is trying to. >> the problem is when government pays someone to clean streets or make $16 muffins are fill up the holes, it takes, government has no money of its own it has to take money from the private sector and we don't know what might have been done with that money. but the government jobs are not real jobs in the sense they me
pet wait themselves and create jobs beyond the job of cleaning the street. >> you say that the key to a vibrant economy is expansion. what the government does it fills certain jobs under the federal mandate but that's it. there is nothing more than that. and it drains the pay for the jobs and health care benefits and retirements and drains money that could go into the private sector? >> survey after survey, in the countries that have small government you get more job growth, singapore and hong kong with a small government that enforces rule of law and kept people from stealing or killing each other and they sat and and drank tea. leaving people alone allowed them to move from third world to first world in 50 years. >> why does president obama not understand his only hope for turning the economy around and
14 months before the election would be to unleash the private sector? he will not do it with the public sector. it will not happen. >> i don't think he believes in it. and it wouldn't necessarily happen quickly enough to help him. with the election. >> but the stock market dropped 300 points. there is no confidence in the president's economic leadership. would you agree with that? >> i don't know. the stock market drops for 100 reasons and it could be europe. it could be fears of greece. >> is it confidence with wall street among president obama's economic leadership? >> why care if they are confident. i want people to understand the president doesn't run the economy. >> but if there is no confidence there will not be any expansion. people sitting on the money and not doing anything. >> but that is not confidence in obama it is, do i understand what the laws will be next year? that goes back to t